Thursday, June 04, 2009

I feel frustrated… need your insights!

For those who haven’t read it I posted yesterday about Robert’s episode yesterday at the Summer Camp where he peed his pants. Today I was called again from the Summer Camp. This time it was worst, he pooped his pants. WTH! What is going on? He was supposedly seated while all the other kids were skating. When he was asked if he was OK he said he was sitting because if he stood up the poop was going to come out. That he couldn’t hold it. His counselor (or teacher) grab him in his hands and ran to the bathroom with him (we really appreciate the detail and caring) but when he put his pants down he was already pooped! HELLO! HE IS ALMOST 6!  I have NO CLUE.

When they called me it was worst. They told me that if it happened again he could not participate of the summer camp anymore. That they cannot let that happen there. They asked me if I planned on sending him on Pull-ups! WTH! Pull-ups? NO WAY! Is like giving him green light to do it. The worst is that HE KNOWS that what he is doing is WRONG but he waits until the last minute and there are the consequences! We use pull ups when he has a virus with diarrhea but that’s it!

And when we talked to him… he was laughing! So I know he is pretty clear what is going on, he do it because he wants to. I think he still don’t get it. We told him that if he do it again he might not be able to be part of the Super Sport Camp. Period! And still he think is a joke.

Another thing. Today I clearly understood what happened yesterday. It was NOT ONE TIME! It happened TWICE that he peed his pants. So is worst than I thought! Two days in a row. No wonder these people don’t want him there if he keeps doing it! This camp is for 5 yo or older!

Please help! IDEAS! SUPPORT WORDS! I need them badly! Plus, living all this while feeling sick.. not FUNNY! :(

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7 comments:

Vickie said...

Oh No!! So Sorry. That does sound frustrating.

Perhaps pull him out of the camp for just a few days and tell him that it is because he keeps making a mess in his pants. Maybe then he will realize and say he will stop. Then try to go to camp again.

Maybe check out the bathrooms. Perhaps there is something about it that is scarying him.

I was like that in kindergarten. I would use the boy bathroom because the girl bathroom was on the first graders side. They were bigger kids.

Also you had asked where I got the animal photos on my daughters blog. My bloggy friend Jeannie gets pictures always emailed to her and she shares them on her blog. She always gives permission to snagged them:)

lvlc said...

Thanks for your support! I really appreciate it!

You know... we thought about the bathroom thing too! We are checking them out tomorrow morning. We are planning on getting there earlier to check them out and also to my DH talk to the teacher himself.

Pulling him our for a few days sounds like a good plan. Thanks! We will definitely consider it! Though I need to make plans at work. That's the beauty of being a grad student. You are more flexible when unexpected things happen.

Helene said...

Hmmm, I think Vickie's idea of checking the bathrooms is a good idea. Maybe there's something in the bathroom that frightens him.

Here's my other thought: can the counselors gently remind him to go potty throughout the day? My 4-yr old son sometimes gets so caught up in play that he'll do the same exact thing. And by the time he realizes he can't hold it any longer, he'll poop in his pants. He KNOWS better...he KNOWS he needs to get to the bathroom but he just doesn't do it.

So maybe if someone can remind him to go the bathroom, he may have more success.

The other thing, and this is related to pulling him out of the program for a few days....could this be his way of controlling the situation? You mentioned that he laughed when you talked to him about it so I'm wondering if he knows this is a problem for the counselors and that he may be asked to leave the program if it continues. Is he enjoying the camp? If not, this may be his way of making sure he doesn't have to stay.

I hope it all gets worked out! I know it can be frustrating, esp when you know he knows better.

Opus #6 said...

As a mom of 6, I can tell you that this behavior was present in one of my sons. He was later diagnosed with ADHD. But earlier, before that, he did stuff like this. He didn't seem to mind so much being wet or dirty in his pants, so it took FOREVER to potty train him. Then he would have random accidents as a pre-K-er (held back from K). He did this when there was a very engrossing activity going on that he did not want to take a break from. I remember asking him why he did it when the bathroom door was exactly 4 paces away. He said, "I was BUSY, mom!" Like I just didn't understand how important playing in the sand WAS. And he later had smaller poop accidents around the swimming pool, which was always fun and never humiliating. Not. He did grow out of it. He is now 18, doesn't remember any of this, and headed to college this fall. They all have their own path in life and their own style. Sometimes these little things bug us, but later you see why it all makes sense.

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lvlc said...

HI all! Thanks for your support... as an update we got there earlier this morning. We talked to his counselor and we thanked him again for what he did.
Also, when we got there, we asked Robert to show us where the bathroom was. DING DING! He was all confused where it was and had to ask someone. That is #1! #2 When we found it, it was far from where he usually is. DING! Combine that he waits until the last minute, with far away bathroom, with I don't know where the bathroom is... HELLO I too would pee on my pants! lol
About his attitude. He think is a joke. Latetly, when we lecture him, he smiles or "try" not to smile. UGH! This really pisses us up! It happened this morning in the camp when we were reminding him about what happened and my husband was so upset.
We asked his counselor to remind him about going to the bathroom throughout the day. He showed to be very very supportive.
But this afternoon my DH wants to talk to the director (the one that called me and told me he could not be there if it happens again) because we feel is not fair. It doesn't make sense that if they have a problem with a child they just kick them off. I think they kind of have a point but is not helpful that attitude. We think is discriminating.
Yesterday we made him clean up his underwear and pants by hands by himself. He found it really disgusting and that was thumbs up since he can connect, "pooping, you clean your mess". He was even disgusted by it! To make a final point, he does not like to be dirty at all. Even if he wets his shirt when washing hand he feel like he needs to change it. He can't stand it. So, peeing and pooping is very disgusting for him.
I'll keep you all posted and thank you all for your suggestions. They are really good! :D
This is very FROM MOM TO MOM!

Melinda said...

Hi Leyda,
This is Melinda from the Coming Clean blog and MBC!

I submitted a suggestion earlier that worked for my sister, but her son was younger -- 3 or 4. Since your son is older, it's a little trickier.

It does sound like it is a power struggle. Can you give him an incentive? Something he would really like to work toward? Each day he goes without an accident, maybe he could work toward some time of prize.

I've found sometimes positive reinforcement works better than taking things away. But, of course, as you know, it always depends on the personality of the child and the age!

Just thought I'd pass it along for what it's worth!

Good luck! I'm sure you are a great mom and this WILL pass. ;0)
Hang in there!

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